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--- mb-lre8x2cs_rev4.6 [2014/02/22 20:20]
fairlightiii [Pictures]
+++ mb-lre8x2cs_rev4.6 [2014/04/04 13:55] (current)
fairlightiii [Pictures]
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 ====Pictures====
+|Actual PCB|
+|{{http://midibox.org/forums/uploads/gallery_7662_237_87413.jpg?800 |Top_Rev_4.7!}}|
+|{{http://midibox.org/forums/uploads/gallery_7662_237_94830.jpg?800 |Bottom_Rev_4.7!}}|
 ==Mix of the Rev2.5 and protoboard pictures (Note this is not the last versions but they have practically the same dimensions and LEDs/Encoders positioning):==
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 ====Schematic====
-|{{http://jeromebo.free.fr/Wiki/MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6/schematic_MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6.png?800 |Schematic}}|
+|{{http://jeromebo.free.fr/Wiki/MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6/schematic_MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6.png?200 |Schematic}}|
 You can download a better definition version [[http://jeromebo.free.fr/Wiki/MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6/Schematic_MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6.pdf |here]].
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 **//Note: Be very careful if you use vectorial software (to draw your front panel e.g.) because usually it takes as origin of each part the left corner of the part and not __the center of the part__ !!!//**
-Take a look at the [[http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=mb-lre8x2cs_rev4.6#frontpanel_svg_files |*.SVG section]] below.
+You can take also a look at the [[http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=mb-lre8x2cs_rev4.6#frontpanel_svg_files |*.SVG section]] below.
 ==LEDs/Encoders==
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 ====BOM====
-^**Quantity**^**Device**^**Parts**^**REICHELT**^**MOUSER**^**Note**^
+^**Qty**^**Device**^**Parts**^**REICHELT**^**MOUSER**^**Note**^
-|4|74HC165|IC1, IC2, IC3, IC4|[[http://www.reichelt.de/ICs-74HC-DIL/74HC-165/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=3155;GROUPID=2930;artnr=74HC+165;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|74HC 165]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/M74HC165B1R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtsbn1GaJysl6MB7j0Br%2feDsjVmH1Bq4Nc%3d|511-M74HC165]]|
+|4|74HC165|IC1, IC2, IC3, IC4|[[http://www.reichelt.de/ICs-74HC-DIL/74HC-165/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=3155;GROUPID=2930;artnr=74HC+165;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|74HC165]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/M74HC165B1R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtsbn1GaJysl6MB7j0Br%2feDsjVmH1Bq4Nc%3d|511-M74HC165]]|
-|2|ULN2803 Transistors Darlington arrays|IC5, IC6|[[http://www.reichelt.de/ICs-U-ZTK-/ULN-2803A/3//index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=2921&ARTICLE=22085&SHOW=1&START=0&OFFSET=16&|ULN 2803A]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/ULN2803AN/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMupZfs%2fwBb3DB9e3JcsATRuLmxIgE1KUkE%3d|595-ULN2803AN]]| |
+|2|ULN2803 Transistors Darlington arrays|IC5, IC6|[[http://www.reichelt.de/ICs-U-ZTK-/ULN-2803A/3//index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=2921&ARTICLE=22085&SHOW=1&START=0&OFFSET=16&|ULN2803A]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/ULN2803AN/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMupZfs%2fwBb3DB9e3JcsATRuLmxIgE1KUkE%3d|595-ULN2803AN]]| |
-|4|74HC595|SR1, SR2, SR3, SR4|[[http://www.reichelt.de/ICs-74HC-DIL/74HC-595/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=3269;GROUPID=2930;artnr=74HC+595;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|74HC 595]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/M74HC595B1R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtsbn1GaJyslwzgtjFT6%252bN8B2dPP5ZzTsg%3d|511-M74HC595]]|
+|4|74HC595|SR1, SR2, SR3, SR4|[[http://www.reichelt.de/ICs-74HC-DIL/74HC-595/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=3269;GROUPID=2930;artnr=74HC+595;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|74HC595]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/M74HC595B1R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtsbn1GaJyslwzgtjFT6%252bN8B2dPP5ZzTsg%3d|511-M74HC595]]|
 |8|Ceramic Cap 100nF=0,1uF "104"|C1->C4 & C6->C9|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Multi-layer-leaded-Z5U-20-/Z5U-2-5-100N/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=22977;GROUPID=3163;artnr=Z5U-2%2C5+100N;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|Z5U-2,5 100n]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kemet/C412C104K5R5HA/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujUupwLInIvN4Ok%2fED44x4z1zwDk22svMvXLs10xlQrAQ%3d%3d|80-C412C104K5R]]|
 |1|Polarized Electrolytic Capacitor 100 uF|C5|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Electrolyte-Capacitors-radial/RAD-100-16/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=15101;GROUPID=3143;artnr=RAD+100%2F16;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|rad 100/16]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Lelon/REA101M1CBK-0611P/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduihP%2fa%252bRFM5YjfdU8xyvx5EAdO%252bg3xCGxHq%2fI2wtlRu%2f084auw92Qnq|140-REA101M1CBK0611P]]|
 |8|10k 6 Pin SIL resistor network "103"|RN3->RN10|[[http://www.reichelt.de/5-Resistance-6-Pins/SIL-6-5-10K/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=17791;GROUPID=4497;artnr=SIL+6-5+10K;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|SIL 6-5 10K]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Xicon/264-10K-RC/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuVmbMdVqM8/AejIFOVsQF2|264-10K-RC]]|
-|16|220 Ohm metal film resistor|R1->R16|[[http://www.reichelt.de/1-4W-1-100-Ohm-976-Ohm/METALL-220/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=11627;GROUPID=3077;artnr=METALL+220;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|METALL 220]]|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/KOA-Speer/MF1-4DCT52R2200F/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu61qfTUdNhG%2fDQawzJ6c7Pvwf5CGzltL8%3d|MF1/4DCT52R2200F]]|You won't be able to use resistor network this time because each resistor is 60° rotated|
+|16|220 Ohm metal film resistor|R1->R16|[[http://www.reichelt.de/1-4W-1-100-Ohm-976-Ohm/METALL-220/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=11627;GROUPID=3077;artnr=METALL+220;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|METALL220]]|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/KOA-Speer/MF1-4DCT52R2200F/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu61qfTUdNhG%2fDQawzJ6c7Pvwf5CGzltL8%3d|MF1/4DCT52R2200F]]|You won't be able to use resistor network this time because each resistor is 60° rotated|
 |2|2x5 pins DIL Shrouded Header|"IN", "OUT"|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Stiftleisten/MPE-087-2-016/3/index.html?ACTION=3;ARTICLE=22816;SEARCH=WSL%2010G|WSL 10G]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Wurth-Electronics/61201021621/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujEIp2%2fjsKWLXg%252bb4e8v61jj1J6zp6AkGGUW5Lrb6Z%2fiw%3d%3d |710-61201021621]]|[[http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Pcs-2x5-10-Pins-Box-Header-IDC-Male-Sockets-Straight-2-54mm-/400313854211?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3490a903 |Cheap model on Ebay]]|
-|1|1x16 pins SIL Header|"TO_SWITCH_BOARD"|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Strip-connectors/SL-1X36G-2-54/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=19504;GROUPID=3220;artnr=SL+1X36G+2%2C54;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|SL 1X36G 2,54]]|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FCI/68001-416HLF/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduj2kX7F%2fjLYsz3Ub4meObGdqvb1PukbIIRu5ukyLqoPwg%3d%3d |649-68001-416HLF]]|Optional (switched encoders)|
+|1|1x16 pins SIL Header|"TO_SWITCH_BOARD"|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Strip-connectors/SL-1X36G-2-54/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=19504;GROUPID=3220;artnr=SL+1X36G+2%2C54;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|SL1X36G 2,54]]|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FCI/68001-416HLF/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduj2kX7F%2fjLYsz3Ub4meObGdqvb1PukbIIRu5ukyLqoPwg%3d%3d |649-68001-416HLF]]|Optional (switched encoders)|
 |16|PEC16-4020F-N0024|ENC1->ENC16|-|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/PEC16-4020F-N0024/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduidMAYXvh4P%252bEanIsGgmf2%2f0x52XmivDsxMksvDEy77TF6d7yR15tkq|652-PEC16-4020FN0024]]|Undetended - without build-in switch|
 |  //or//|PEC16-4020F-S0024| |-|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/PEC16-4020F-S0024/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduidMAYXvh4P%252bBRWlDqCgjW9Zaz1UYvxiiu4QrPXX2IsiUoSeMNo9bgu|652-PEC16-4020FS0024]]|Undetended - with build-in switch|
 |10|Socket 16 pins|-|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Sockets-IC/GS-16/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=8208;GROUPID=3215;artnr=GS+16;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|GS 16]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/1-390261-4/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tvt1%2fmEPT%2fXoNq7gP2OHJlQ%3d|571-1-390261-4]]|[[http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-16-pin-DIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-/250865607065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a68c16199 |Cheap model on Ebay]]|
 |2|Socket 18 pins|-|[[http://www.reichelt.de/Sockets-IC/GS-18/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=8210;GROUPID=3215;artnr=GS+18;SID=12UC05eH8AAAIAADZ-Tk83280bcbf1bb38ae589b1b56c8f1c3195|GS 18]]|[[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/1-390261-5/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tvt1%2fmEPT%2fXoZIDJRoSu7Is%3d|571-1-390261-5]]|[[http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-18-pin-DIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-Socket-/260827963537?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cba8ee091 |Cheap model on Ebay]]|
-|256|LED 3mm or rectangular (2x5x7mm)|LED1->LED256|[[http://www.reichelt.de/LEDs-standard-hell/LED-3MM-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=10228;GROUPID=3018;artnr=LED+3MM+RT|LED 3MM RT]]|-|Reichelt model recommended|\\
+|256|LED 3mm or rectangular (2x5x7mm)|LED1->LED256|[[http://www.reichelt.de/LEDs-standard-hell/LED-3MM-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=10228;GROUPID=3018;artnr=LED+3MM+RT|LED 3MMRT]]|-|Reichelt model recommended|\\
-This is a [[http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=69bb107803|Mouser Orderlist]] (Thank you Lamouette). You have only to add your LEDs and Pinheaders.
 ====LED black list====
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 Members are welcome to edit this page to add their LED feedback.
-|Model|Type|Link|Good|Not good|Comment|Author|
+^Model^Type^Mcd^Link^Good^Not good^With ULNs^Author^
-|Kingbright WP103HD|2x5x7mm rectangular|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP103HD/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmhjquLrW8G4%252b6fJ5ym%2fib3s%3d|Mouser]]| |  X  | |Tk|
+|Kingbright WP103HD|2x5x7mm rectangular|  2  |[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP103HD/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmhjquLrW8G4%252b6fJ5ym%2fib3s%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |  ?  |Tk|
-|LED 3MM RT|3mm round|[[http://www.reichelt.de/LEDs-standard-hell/LED-3MM-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=10228;GROUPID=3018;artnr=LED+3MM+RT|Reichelt]]|  X  | | |Tk|
+|LED 3MM RT|3mm round|  1.3>5  |[[http://www.reichelt.de/LEDs-standard-hell/LED-3MM-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=10228;GROUPID=3018;artnr=LED+3MM+RT |Reichelt]]|  X  | |  ?  |Tk|
-|"10001"|2x5x7mm rectangular|[[http://www.auspiciousmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_1_2&products_id=19|auspiciousmall.com]]|  X  |  X  |Used without ULNs(prototype)|Fairlightiii|
+|"10001"|2x5x7mm rectangular|  ?  |[[http://www.auspiciousmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_1_2&products_id=19 |auspiciousmall.com]]|  X  |  X  |  No(prototype)  |Fairlightiii|
-|Kingbright L-934ID|3mm round|[[http://www.segor.de/#Q=LED%203%20rt%20diffus%2050mcd%20630
+|Kingbright L-934ID|3mm round|  25  |[[http://www.segor.de/#Q=LED%203%20rt%20diffus%2050mcd%20630 |Segor Electronics]]|  X  | |  ?  |rvlt|
-|Segor Electronics]]|  X  | | |rvlt|
+|Kingbright WP132XID|3mm round|  10>25  |[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP132XID/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmsNxrQ0ZQMdoZ/c/v7yOhNA= |Mouser]]|  X  | |  No  |grizz|
-|Kingbright WP132XID|3mm round|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP132XID/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmsNxrQ0ZQMdoZ/c/v7yOhNA= |Mouser]]|  X  | |Used without ULNs|grizz|
+|Kingbright WP132XID|3mm round|  10>25  |[[http://de.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP132XID/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmsNxrQ0ZQMdoZ%2fc%2fv7yOhNA%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |  Yes  |MaG2k|
-|Kingbright WP132XID|3mm round|[[http://de.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP132XID/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmsNxrQ0ZQMdoZ%2fc%2fv7yOhNA%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
+|Kingbright WP113SRDT|2x5x7mm rectangular|  36>60  |[[http://de.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP113SRDT/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugD%2fTsmQfHeoZzOEu7l2adZD53TPtc4aU1OtJcXIaccXQ%3d%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |  Yes  |MaG2k|
-|Kingbright WP113SRDT|2x5x7mm rectangular|[[http://de.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP113SRDT/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugD%2fTsmQfHeoZzOEu7l2adZD53TPtc4aU1OtJcXIaccXQ%3d%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
+|smashTV is selling|3mm round|  ?  |[[http://www.avishowtech.com/buy.html |smashTV]]| |  X  |  Yes  |MaG2k|
-|smashTV is selling|3mm round|[[http://www.avishowtech.com/buy.html |smashTV]]| |  X  |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
+|Tayda Electronics|3mm round|  ?  |[[http://www.taydaelectronics.com/leds/round-leds/3mm-leds/led-3mm-red.html |Tayda Electronics]]|  X  | |  Yes  |MaG2k|
-|Tayda Electronics|3mm round|[[http://www.taydaelectronics.com/leds/round-leds/3mm-leds/led-3mm-red.html |Tayda Electronics]]|  X  | |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
 //Note: Regarding condition of each test (ambient luminosity, etc...) and sensibility of each person, this results should be taken with reserve.//
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 Each LEDring is composed of 16 LEDs: 15 on the LEDring itself and one on the lowest part of the LEDring.
 Thorsten advised me about this type of implementation (odd number of LEDs) because it is an [[http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/3711-nord-lead-3-rack-large.jpg|industry standard]] and to have better feedback for some controls (PAN//oramic// e.g.).
+Note that the lowest LED (LED1 in the drawing below) is not at the same distance (459 mils) of the center of the encoder than the other LEDs of the LEDring (610 mils).
 You can use 3mm LEDs or 2x5x7mm rectangular LEDs (because the different angles of the LEDs in the LEDring) or all other LED with 0.1 inch (2,54 mm) leads spacing.\\
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 <del>Be careful to the </del>[[http://midibox.org/forums/topic/17378-control-surface-pcb-for-16-encodersledrings-bulk-order/page-11#entry154303|connection to the MBHP_CORE_LPC17 module]]<del> because it could be confusing, since the SO pin of J8/9 has to be connected to the SI pin of the LRE2x8 board, and SI to the SO pin (for MBHP_DOUT/DIN we usually have the same names for these signals, this detail has been overlooked)</del>.
 //All should be OK in this revision.//
+|{{http://jeromebo.free.fr/Wiki/MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6/IDC.png |IDC}}|
 ==ULN2803==
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 Be careful when sourcing SIL resistor networks because a 6 Pin SIL resistor network can be 5 commoned resistors (what you need here) or __3__ independant resistors.
-A point on the silkcreen prevent to solder upside-down the resistor networks (a point is also indicated on the resistor network).
+A dot on the silkcreen prevent to solder upside-down the resistor networks (a dot is also indicated on the resistor network).
 ==Polarized Electrolytic Capacitor 100 uF==
@@ Line 227: / Line 234: @@
 |{{http://jeromebo.free.fr/Wiki/MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6/MB-LRE8x2CS_Rev4.6_2x5_LED.png?800 |2x5_LED}}|
-I provide this files without warranty.
+Consult your datasheet to check if the opening dimension fit your LED.
+--------------------------------------------------------------
+//I provide all this information without warranty.//
+**Feel free to contact me to make corrections.**
-**Feel free to contact me to make corrections.**
+--------------------------------------------------------------
 Jerome aka Fairlightiii.

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