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wilba_mb_6582 [2012/09/21 06:50]
bobbysaunders
wilba_mb_6582 [2020/12/06 22:07]
m00dawg Added spreadsheet and link to dwestbury's forum post on BOMs
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 [[http://​www.flickr.com/​photos/​wilba/​]] [[http://​www.flickr.com/​photos/​wilba/​]]
  
-**People interested in obtaining the PCBs and "parts kits" can look at the MIDIbox forum topic here:**+**PCBs and knobs are now available ​at Modular Addict.**
  
-[[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?​topic=10302.0]].+[[https://modularaddict.com/manufacturer/midibox]]
  
-[[wilba_mb_6582_pcbthread|The condensed version of this thread]].+**For SID chips, PIC chips, panels, and any other parts you're having trouble sourcing, your best bet is to ask around at the forums.**
  
-**BUT WAIT! THEY ARE AVAILABLE NOW! Just go to SmashTV'​s shop and buy some!**+[[http://​midibox.org/​forums/​forum/​31-midibox-sid/​|MIDIbox SID forum]]
  
-[[http://www.avishowtech.com/​mbhp/​]] +To get you started on your BOM, you can use {{ ::​original_mb_6582_bom_-_economy_vs_premium_build_cost_comparison_-_oct_2020.xlsx |this}} Excel spreadsheet kindly made by dwestburyFor more info, see [[http://​midibox.org/​forums/topic/​21537-cost-of-building-a-mb-6582-today-with-either-premium-or-economic-components/|this]] forum post.
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-**There are bulk orders for cheap panels and other parts required, see here:** +
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-[[http://www.midibox.org/​forum/index.php?​board=36.0]] +
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-**I am running ​bulk order for control surface parts, Australians only, see here:** +
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-[[http://​www.midibox.org/​dokuwiki/​doku.php?​id=wilba_mb_6582_parts_bulk_order]] +
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-**People looking for SIDs (specifically 6582A SIDs), see here:** +
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-[[wilba_6582a_sid_mega_sale|WILBA'​S 6582A SID MEGA SALE!!!]]+
  
 **The MB-6582 project is based on the MIDIbox Hardware Platform (MBHP) and is strictly for personal non-commercial use. Everyone who has bought MB-6582 PCBs must read and agree to the following license:** **The MB-6582 project is based on the MIDIbox Hardware Platform (MBHP) and is strictly for personal non-commercial use. Everyone who has bought MB-6582 PCBs must read and agree to the following license:**
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     * **PSU Option C:** Uses 5v regulation circuit to provide option A or B when not using C64 PSU (which has its own 5V regulation). //I have added this option at the last minute to the PCB as a potential workaround for people unable to get a C64 PSU. People could generate 5v from a single unregulated 9v AC supply (9v AC adapter) or supply separate unregulated 9v AC and unregulated 5v DC supplies (9v and 5v AC adapters), using the same power socket and switch. Please do not assume this idea will work well, it might introduce noise, hum and heat!//     * **PSU Option C:** Uses 5v regulation circuit to provide option A or B when not using C64 PSU (which has its own 5V regulation). //I have added this option at the last minute to the PCB as a potential workaround for people unable to get a C64 PSU. People could generate 5v from a single unregulated 9v AC supply (9v AC adapter) or supply separate unregulated 9v AC and unregulated 5v DC supplies (9v and 5v AC adapters), using the same power socket and switch. Please do not assume this idea will work well, it might introduce noise, hum and heat!//
     * **PSU Option D:** External regulated power supply circuit, supplying +12v,​+9v,​+5v and ground ... for those people wanting to use their own power supply, because they don't want to use the C64 PSU.     * **PSU Option D:** External regulated power supply circuit, supplying +12v,​+9v,​+5v and ground ... for those people wanting to use their own power supply, because they don't want to use the C64 PSU.
 +    * **[[wilba_mb_6582_psuopte|PSU Option E:]]** Uses a single 12-15V DC supply (aka a common wall-wart). This is a newer option worked out on the forums to avoid the common pitfalls associated with using a C64 power supply or other AC PSUs. Uses switching regulators (which were not available at a reasonable price or quality when the MB-6582 was designed) in order to generate a 5V rail (or a 5V and a 9V rail in the case of a mixed-SID setup) and a regular linear regulator to generate the 9v rail (or the 12V rail in the case of 6581/​mixed-SID setups). Click the link for a complete tutorial.
  
 ===== Control Surface PCB ===== ===== Control Surface PCB =====
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 ===== Revision 1 PCBs (bought from Wilba) ===== ===== Revision 1 PCBs (bought from Wilba) =====
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_Base_PCB_Color.pdf]]+<del>[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_Base_PCB_Color.pdf]] ​dead link</​del>​
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/plans/MB-6582_Base_PCB_Mono.pdf]]+[[http://​www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/lib/​exe/​fetch.php?​media=mb-6582:​mb-6582_base_pcb.pdf]]
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_Color.pdf]]+<del>[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_Base_PCB_Mono.pdf]] ​dead link</​del>​
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_Mono.pdf]]+<del>[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_Color.pdf]] ​dead link</​del>​
  
-===== Revision 2 PCBs (bought from SmashTV) =====+<​del>​[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_Mono.pdf]] dead link</​del>​ 
 +===== Revision 2 PCBs (bought from SmashTV ​or Modular Addict) =====
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_Base_PCB_R2_Color.pdf]]+<del>[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_Base_PCB_R2_Color.pdf]] ​dead link</​del>​
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/plans/MB-6582_Base_PCB_R2_Mono.pdf]]+[[http://​www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/lib/​exe/​fetch.php?​media=mb-6582:​mb-6582_base_pcb_r2_color.pdf]]
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_R2_Color.pdf]]+<del>[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_Base_PCB_R2_Mono.pdf]] ​dead link</​del>​
  
-[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_R2_Mono.pdf]]+<​del>​[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_R2_Color.pdf]] dead link</​del>​ 
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 +[[http://​www.midibox.org/​dokuwiki/​lib/​exe/​fetch.php?​media=mb-6582:​mb-6582_cs_pcb_r2_color.pdf]] 
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 +<del>[[http://​www.mb6582.org/​plans/​MB-6582_CS_PCB_R2_Mono.pdf]] ​dead link</​del>​
  
  
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 Connect ribbon cable to the LCD or PLED using all wires, as if you were going to use 8-bit mode on a normal Core module. The four wires you don't need for 4-bit mode are not connected on J15 by default. If you discover your display freezing up after a while (but the synth still works in the background),​ you can execute a MIOS memory read from MIOS Studio to validate that the display has timed out, most likely due to a bug working in 4-bit mode. To fix this, you can run in 8-bit mode by using two PIC pins from port E to replace the two PIC pins being used by the CAN bus. Solder those jumper pads on the bottom side, run the change device ID app to use custom LCD driver, the custom LCD driver file should already be in the source code of the MB-SID V2 application and compiled in. If you want to run other applications,​ you'll need to copy that custom LCD driver file into those source directories and rebuild those applications. Connect ribbon cable to the LCD or PLED using all wires, as if you were going to use 8-bit mode on a normal Core module. The four wires you don't need for 4-bit mode are not connected on J15 by default. If you discover your display freezing up after a while (but the synth still works in the background),​ you can execute a MIOS memory read from MIOS Studio to validate that the display has timed out, most likely due to a bug working in 4-bit mode. To fix this, you can run in 8-bit mode by using two PIC pins from port E to replace the two PIC pins being used by the CAN bus. Solder those jumper pads on the bottom side, run the change device ID app to use custom LCD driver, the custom LCD driver file should already be in the source code of the MB-SID V2 application and compiled in. If you want to run other applications,​ you'll need to copy that custom LCD driver file into those source directories and rebuild those applications.
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 ** Is there any reason why 16-volt 2200uF caps cannot be used instead of 25-volt ones? ** ** Is there any reason why 16-volt 2200uF caps cannot be used instead of 25-volt ones? **
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